Angry Birds Wiki:Chat/Logs/13 December 2016

[05:05] <Iamarepeater> test
[05:38] <Qazqaz555> Is everyone else present?
[05:39] <Iamarepeater> me
[05:39] <Iamarepeater> The rest are in "dead" zone
[05:39] <Qazqaz555> "dead" zone?
[05:40] <Qazqaz555> Everyone please give me an indication if you are present
[05:40] <Qazqaz555> I need to address something important to all of you
[05:40] <Iamarepeater> Simply put, they are AFKing
[05:40] <Qazqaz555> Very well, I shall wait
[05:41] <AquaAngryBirdsFan> I'm still cleaning up Stella levels pages, my apology for away
[05:42] <Iamarepeater> Soon, Bp shall enter the chat as himself
[05:42] <BpBot> Hi guys.
[05:42] <Iamarepeater> nvm
[05:42] <Iamarepeater> hi Bp
[05:42] <Qazqaz555> Hello
[05:42] <Iamarepeater> Nice timing
[05:42] <Iamarepeater> We have something to discuss
[05:42] <BpBot> I am not in my PC or laptop now so I use my bot to chat.
[05:43] <Qazqaz555> Currently waiting for Golden Gale to come back on
[05:43] <AquaAngryBirdsFan> Hey Bp
[05:43] <Qazqaz555> something important I need to address
[05:43] <BpBot> Okay.
[05:44] <PrinceGoldenGale> [[User blog:ErnestoAM/Angry Birds Soundtracks%23Angry Birds Stella|User blog:ErnestoAM/Angry Birds Soundtracks#Angry Birds Stella]]
[05:44] <Qazqaz555> ok everyone's on
[05:44] <Qazqaz555> now then
[05:44] <Qazqaz555> Could any of you tell me the fundamental ideal of Wikia?
[05:45] <Qazqaz555> or in other words, the central driving force behind its concept?
[05:45] <Iamarepeater> A website to show information
[05:45] <PrinceGoldenGale> Knowledge accumulation?
[05:45] <Qazqaz555> That's part of it
[05:45] <BpBot> Michael asked me about birthday calendar yesterday since CCSW does have. I think it is no good because it is the personal information and violent the policy.
[05:45] <Qazqaz555> but what is putting together the accumulation?
[05:45] <BpBot> Oops.
[05:45] <Iamarepeater> Collaboration?
[05:45] <Qazqaz555> exactly
[05:45] <Qazqaz555> or in other words
[05:45] <Qazqaz555> community
[05:45] <AquaAngryBirdsFan> Yes
[05:45] <Iamarepeater> We're missing that part
[05:46] <Qazqaz555> hold on
[05:46] <Qazqaz555> let me explain
[05:46] <AquaAngryBirdsFan> Oh alright
[05:46] <Qazqaz555> community is the central idea of wikia, and the community is what makes wikis possible
[05:46] <Qazqaz555> because of that, it is our duty as staff members to make as best of a c ommunity as we can
[05:46] <BpBot> Yes.
[05:46] <Iamarepeater> of course
[05:46] <Michael, The Lord Of Wikia> Seriously?
[05:47] <BpBot> Hi Michael.
[05:47] <Qazqaz555> by doing that, we can help new users, and guide them
[05:47] <Iamarepeater> Being a staff is guiding new members, not deter them
[05:47] <Qazqaz555> yes
[05:47] <Qazqaz555> however
[05:47] <AquaAngryBirdsFan> Hey Bp, if you have some time with Stella game (idk if you still have it or not (?)), will you add more strategies on level pages?
[05:47] <Qazqaz555> what I have seen so far is quite troubling to be honest
[05:47] <PrinceGoldenGale> it is the bond as well
[05:48] <BpBot> @Qaz Why kick Michael?
[05:48] <Iamarepeater> It's a staff-only talk
[05:48] <Qazqaz555> An issue amongst all of you and Michael to be specific
[05:48] <Qazqaz555> yes I need him to be away for me to address this
[05:49] <Qazqaz555> Michael is among many relatively new users here
[05:49] <PrinceGoldenGale> I had Aqua
[05:49] <AquaAngryBirdsFan> @Bp Because some of Stella level pages aren't finish with strategies part
[05:49] <Qazqaz555> however, we are not giving him the ideal image of a wiki community
[05:49] <BpBot> ABStella?
[05:49] <AquaAngryBirdsFan> Yep
[05:49] <Iamarepeater> In the meantime, I should make a new template
[05:49] <Qazqaz555> with everyone addressing certain issues to him in quite honestly an unfriendly manner
[05:49] <BpBot> I haven't played it for a long time.
[05:50] <Iamarepeater> Indicating strategies-less pages 
[05:50] <Iamarepeater> And Michael, this is confidential matters
[05:50] <Iamarepeater> Aqua, I will PM you the template I made for outdated content
[05:50] <AquaAngryBirdsFan> Cause' I'm cleaning up Stella levels pages now (and I'll add images for Beach Day levels later on)
[05:51] <Iamarepeater> may I?
[05:51] <AquaAngryBirdsFan> @Repeater Alright
[05:51] <Qazqaz555> Anyway, back to the conversation at hand
[05:51] <Qazqaz555> Michael has stated he feels everyone is against him and is preventing him from being a part of the staff
[05:51] <Qazqaz555> in short, he feels bullied and excluded
[05:51] <Qazqaz555> and no one is acting upon this
[05:51] <Qazqaz555> this is unacceptable
[05:52] <BpBot> Ummm...
[05:52] <Qazqaz555> let me finish
[05:52] <BpBot> It's hard to say.
[05:52] <Iamarepeater> Bp, let him speak.
[05:52] <Qazqaz555> we as a community are here to encourage and guide new users
[05:52] <Qazqaz555> you have all no doubt seen the flaws michael has had
[05:52] <BpBot> There has been already the similar case in Candy Crush Wiki.
[05:52] <Qazqaz555> but no one is bothering to help him
[05:52] <Qazqaz555> instead everyone is only pointing out his mistakes
[05:52] <Qazqaz555> no one is guiding him 
[05:53] <Qazqaz555> this is unacceptable as staff members
[05:53] <Qazqaz555> this is my first time working with you guys as a group so I don't know how you operate
[05:53] <Qazqaz555> but let this be a lesson to all of you
[05:53] <Qazqaz555> even if you don't agree with others or are having a conflict
[05:53] <Qazqaz555> conduct yourself in a professional and polite manner
[05:54] <Iamarepeater> So basically, we just need to really listen at times?
[05:54] <Qazqaz555> perhaps this will all be made clear in my admin guide
[05:54] <Qazqaz555> not exactly
[05:54] <Qazqaz555> be a community that wikia is meant to have
[05:54] <Iamarepeater> True
[05:54] <Qazqaz555> if you have a conflict, try to see things from another persepctive and work things out
[05:54] <Iamarepeater> I should bring this back to the wiki I originated from
[05:54] <Qazqaz555> consistently arguing against one person and only pointing out their mistakes without helping them is no way to go
[05:55] <BpBot> I have experience about this. I had argued with Boomerang two years ago.
[05:55] <Qazqaz555> yes please if you owuld
[05:55] <Qazqaz555> yes I will address something like that in the admin guide
[05:55] <Iamarepeater> In that wiki, we have this issue as well
[05:55] <Qazqaz555> but overall, please just be more courteous, considerate and kind
[05:55] <Iamarepeater> Got it
[05:56] <Qazqaz555> I hope I won't have to bring this issue up again anytime soon
[05:56] <Qazqaz555> Does everyone here understand?
[05:56] <PrinceGoldenGale> I understand
[05:56] <Iamarepeater> Noted
[05:56] <BpBot> Please conclude again.
[05:56] <AquaAngryBirdsFan> @Qaz Alright, I can understand
[05:56] <Qazqaz555> my conclusion is basically help new users and be what wikia is meant to be instead of what is currently happening
[05:57] <BpBot> Yep.
[05:57] <Qazqaz555> alright, if everyone understands then this concludes this talk
[05:57] <BpBot> Support.
[05:57] <Qazqaz555> thank you all for listening
[05:57] <Qazqaz555> I hope I will not see any of this in the future from any of you
[05:58] <BpBot> Okay. 
[05:58] <PrinceGoldenGale> alright
[05:58] <BpBot> At first I don't support about non-staff restrictions.
[05:59] <BpBot> Like non-staff cannot vote for sth,
[05:59] <Iamarepeater> Even their input could be something we never considered
[05:59] <Qazqaz555> personally i believe anyone can vote for wiki matters
[05:59] <Iamarepeater> Exactly
[05:59] <Qazqaz555> but staff apps are only for staff yes
[05:59] <Iamarepeater> Yep
[06:00] <BpBot> Yep. I think we should tell Hearts and Boomerang about this conversation.
[06:00] <Iamarepeater> So who is going to amend the wiki's policy?
[06:00] <BpBot> Yeah.
[06:00] <BpBot> Oops.
[06:00] <BpBot> I'm not free now.
[06:01] <BpBot> So Gale, Aqua, or Qaz.
[06:01] <Qazqaz555> I don't believe notifying them will be needed
[06:01] <Iamarepeater> But it is good idea
[06:01] <Qazqaz555> Hearts and Boomerang already know this stuff
[06:02] <Iamarepeater> How?
[06:02] <Qazqaz555> Because they've been here long enough to know how to conduct themselves in an orderly fashion
[06:02] <Iamarepeater> Oh
[06:02] <Iamarepeater> That makes sense now
[06:02] <Qazqaz555> they understand the needs of being administrators
[06:02] <Qazqaz555> and as a whole, staff membes
[06:03] <BpBot> Okay.
[06:04] <Qazqaz555> To be quite honest, it took me several years to adjust to the way I am right now
[06:05] <Iamarepeater> Even I feel I need to grow up a bit more
[06:05] <Qazqaz555> when I first gained admin rights here, I wasn't the best admin, and unfortunately gained notoriety for being rude 
[06:05] <Qazqaz555> because of that i made several mistakes
[06:05] <Qazqaz555> that to this day I cant forget about
[06:06] <Qazqaz555> and thats why im writing the admin guide
[06:06] <BpBot> Me, too. I was impatient that time.
[06:08] <BpBot> Test.
[06:08] <Qazqaz555> which one are u referring to?
[06:08] <BpBot> Who?
[06:08] <Iamarepeater> You said you made a guide already
[06:08] <Iamarepeater> I can't find it
[06:08] <Qazqaz555> I said im writing a guide
[06:08] <Qazqaz555> meaning its not finished
[06:08] <Iamarepeater> Oh
[06:08] <Qazqaz555> haha, sorry for the misunderstanding
[06:08] <Iamarepeater> Then where will it be posted?
[06:08] <Iamarepeater> I see :) 
[06:08] <Qazqaz555> probably on a blog or forum
[06:08] <Iamarepeater> Ok
[06:08] <Iamarepeater> I will be on the lookout then
[06:09] <Qazqaz555> anyways, Im getting off
[06:09] <Qazqaz555> 1 am in my time zone
[06:09] <Iamarepeater> Ok then
[06:09] <Qazqaz555> see you all around
[06:09] <Iamarepeater> Bye Qaz
[06:09] <PrinceGoldenGale> See you
[06:09] <BpBot> Cya.
[06:09] <BpBot> \o 
[06:09] <AquaAngryBirdsFan> Goodbye Qaz
[06:10] <Iamarepeater> Wished I had a bot that can do the small repetitive editing that I have to do
[06:10] <BpBot> You can ask Bp to use this user.
[06:11] <Iamarepeater> It's editing the ordering which the player goes through the stages in Epic, starting from south beach 1
[06:11] <Iamarepeater> Mandatory stages
[06:11] <BpBot> For chat logs, some are missing because I cannot let it in chat all time.
[06:11] <AquaAngryBirdsFan> It's 10pm for me right now, so I need to get some sleep. I'll talk to you guys later ^^
[06:12] <Iamarepeater> Bye aqua :) 
[06:12] <BpBot> Cya, Aqua.
[06:12] <AquaAngryBirdsFan> Goodnight guys ^v^
[06:12] <BpBot> WB Michael.
[06:13] <Iamarepeater> As I was saying, I'm editing the order which the player has to go through the levels in Epic for both mandatory and optional stages
[06:13] <Iamarepeater> I don't think the bot can help me in this case
[06:13] <BpBot> Sometimes editing yourself is easier than using a bot.
[06:14] <Iamarepeater> yeah, I have to admit that
[06:14] <BpBot> Especially adding several categories in one page.
[06:14] <PrinceGoldenGale> We will get tired overtime
[06:14] <Iamarepeater> yep
[06:16] <Iamarepeater> [[Special:Maps/1210]]
[06:17] <BpBot> I have
[06:17] <BpBot> created it.
[06:17] <Iamarepeater> What is that pin category: jnjnjj?
[06:17] <Iamarepeater> I can't find any pins related to that
[06:18] <PrinceGoldenGale> remove
[06:18] <Iamarepeater> ok then
[06:18] <Iamarepeater> Who is removing it?
[06:18] <Iamarepeater> I don't want to remove it due to edit conflict possiblity
[06:18] <PrinceGoldenGale> I am not sure how to remove it
[06:18] <Iamarepeater> Bp?
[06:18] <PrinceGoldenGale> I will leave up to you guys
[06:19] <BpBot> Yes?
[06:19] <BpBot> I am not convenient to edit now.
[06:19] <Iamarepeater> Ok then
[06:19] <Iamarepeater> I will remove that extra pin category
[06:19] <Iamarepeater> wait
[06:19] <Iamarepeater> I know why now
[06:19] <Michael, The Lord Of Wikia> Dude
[06:20] <BpBot> ?
[06:20] <BpBot> Hi.
[06:20] <Michael, The Lord Of Wikia> Qaz was kicking me
[06:20] <Iamarepeater> That is a placeholder
[06:20] <Michael, The Lord Of Wikia> It was quite wierd
[06:20] <Michael, The Lord Of Wikia> But why
[06:20] <PrinceGoldenGale> I will talk to you personally.
[06:20] <PrinceGoldenGale> Michael, PM
[06:20] <Iamarepeater> It was a confidential talk for staff members
[06:20] <BpBot> We was talking something important.
[06:20] <BpBot> *were
[06:21] <Michael, The Lord Of Wikia> What was it about